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Form 8869: Qualified Subchapter S Subsidiary Election
IRS Form 8869 is used by a parent S corporation to elect to treat one or more eligible subsidiaries as a qualified subchapter S subsidiary (QSub). An election filed more than 2 months and 15 days after the requested effective date generally will be made effective 2 months and 15 days before the date it is filed.
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IRS Form 8869 - Qualified Subchapter S Subsidiary Election
IRS Form 8869 is used by a parent S corporation to elect to treat one or more eligible subsidiaries as a qualified subchapter S subsidiary (QSub). An election filed more than 2 months and 15 days after the requested effective date generally will be made effective 2 months and 15 days before the date it is filed.
Risk Radar
Scan points- 1Ensure the election is not made for a corporation that was formerly eligible but is ineligible at the time of filing.
- 2Filing outside the required window (more than 12 months prior or >2 months/15 days later).
- 3Not including a separate sheet for each subsidiary when electing QSub status for multiple entities.
- 4Failure to enter the subsidiary’s EIN, which can trigger a delinquent filing notice from the service center.
- 5Filing an election for a corporation that is ineligible at the time of the election (per Reg. 1.1361-3(a)(1)).
Plain English
This form allows an S corporation to choose that one or more of its smaller companies (subsidiaries) should be treated as part of the main company for tax purposes. When this election happens, the subsidiary is deemed liquidated into the parent, meaning all its assets and income are counted directly by the parent.
Submission Date
- Filing date: 2020-12-08 22:14:50
- Preparation window: collect IDs, supporting records, and signatures in advance.
- Final review: verify names, dates, and required fields before submission.
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What this form is for
- Use this form when a parent S corporation elects to treat one or more of its eligible subsidiaries as a qualified subchapter S subsidiary (QSub).
- Do not use it when the election is for an ineligible corporation, even if that corporation was formerly eligible.
- Check Form 8869 instead when electing QSub status for a parent S corporation's subsidiary.
Form selector
Use this form or another form?
Subsidiary forms its new entity
The election is effective upon formation, requiring submission to the parent's service center.
✓ Confirm you are using the correct filing address for your parent S corporation.
Election filed very early or late
Elections filed more than 12 months before or more than 2 months and 15 days after the requested date have specific timing rules.
✓ Verify the exact dates you are requesting on line 11.
Election for multiple subsidiaries
A separate sheet must be attached for each additional subsidiary, using the same format as Part II.
✓ Ensure all sheets list the parent corporation's name and EIN at the top.
Deadline or filing window
Generally, the QSub election must be filed no earlier than 12 months before or no later than 2 months and 15 days after the requested effective date. If an election is filed more than 2 months and 15 days after the requested effective date, it will usually be made effective 2 months and 15 days *before* the filing date.
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What you need before filling it out
Purpose of Form 8869
Parent S corporation electing QSub status · Instructions p.1 / Form p.1
Filing Location (Subsidiary)
Service center where the subsidiary filed its most recent return · Instructions p.1
Filing Location (New Subsidiary)
Service center where the parent S corporation filed its most recent return · Instructions p.1
Late Acceptance Rule
Election filed > 2 months and 15 days after requested date · Instructions p.1
Election Duration
Remains in effect until terminated (until the year before the fifth tax year after termination) · Instructions p.2 / Regulations section 1.1361-5
Required Signatory
President, VP, treasurer, assistant treasurer, chief accounting officer, or other authorized corporate officer · Instructions p.2 / Form p.1
Before you submit
- 1Verify the election is for eligible subsidiaries and that the corporation was eligible at the time of filing.
- 2Ensure the requested Effective Date on line 11 falls within the acceptable window (generally no earlier than 12 months before or no later than 2 months and 15 days after).
- 3If electing for multiple subsidiaries, confirm a separate sheet is attached for each one.
- 4Confirm that every additional subsidiary sheet lists the parent corporation’s name and EIN at the top.
- 5Verify the form is signed and dated by an authorized officer of the parent S corporation.
- 6Check that the filing address matches the service center where the entity filed its most recent return (or the parent's if a new subsidiary was formed).
- 7If mailing, ensure it is postmarked correctly to meet the timely filing requirements.
How to file this form
- 1Complete Part I of Form 8869 by entering the name and address of the parent S corporation.
- 2On line 11, enter the requested Effective Date of the QSub election.
- 3If electing for more than one subsidiary, attach a separate sheet for each additional entity, ensuring you include the parent's name and EIN on every attached sheet.
- 4Sign and date Form 8869 using an authorized corporate officer’s signature.
- 5Mail or submit Form 8869 to the appropriate service center where the subsidiary filed its most recent return (or the parent's if a new subsidiary was formed).
- 6Keep a copy of the completed and signed Form 8869 for your records, along with proof of filing.
Known limitations
- 1A final return for the subsidiary may have to be filed even if the QSub election is made, but no final return is required if the election is made pursuant to a reorganization under section 368(a)(1)(F) and Rev. Rul. 2008-18.
- 2If an S corporation was formerly eligible for the QSub election but is ineligible at the time of the election, the QSub election will be ineffective even if made within the proper timeframe (12 months before or 2 months and 15 days after the effective date).
- 3The newly formed parent must obtain a new EIN; the old S corporation for which the election is made retains its existing EIN.
- 4Failure to enter the subsidiary’s EIN on Form 8869 may result in the service center sending a notice of delinquent filing to the QSub.
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Entity Info
1 items
Name and taxpayer ID of the entity claiming the credit.
Credit Info
1 items
Type of credit or incentive being claimed.
Calculation
2 items
The base amount used to calculate the credit.
Calculated credit amount after applying formulas and limitations.
Certification
1 items
Detailed breakdown supporting the credit calculation.
Signatures
1 items
Sign and date the form.
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Fillable formOpen in Editor->The current edition is Revision December 2020, and instructions direct users to IRS.gov/Form8869 for the latest information regarding Form 8869.
What changed or needs a fresh check
- Edition date — confirm the revision reads December 2020.
- Effective Date filing window — confirm the election is generally filed no earlier than 12 months before or no later than 2 months and 15 days after the requested effective date (line 11).
- Mailing address — file with the service center where the subsidiary filed its most recent return, unless a new subsidiary was formed. Not stated in the official source for a specific P.O. box/suite address.
- Signature — confirm it is signed and dated by an authorized corporate officer (president, VP, treasurer, etc.).
- Additional subsidiaries — check that each attached sheet includes the parent corporation’s name and EIN at the top.
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After you file
- 1Retain copies of Form 8869 after filing it.
- 2The service center will notify the corporation if the QSub election is accepted and when it takes effect, or if it is not accepted.
- 3A corporation may receive an administrative letter confirming the receipt of Form 8869.
- 4Books or records relating to Form 8869 must be retained as long as their contents may become material in the administration of any Internal Revenue law.
Sources
- SRCInstructions p.1 — The purpose of Form 8869 is for a parent S corporation to elect to treat eligible subsidiaries as a qualified subchapter S subsidiary (QSub).
- SRCInstructions p.1 — Following the QSub election, the subsidiary is not treated as separate for federal tax purposes, and its assets/liabilities are treated as those of the parent.
- SRCInstructions p.1 — When filing Form 8869, do not file Form 966 (Corporate Dissolution or Liquidation) because the liquidation is deemed.
- SRCInstructions p.1 — File Form 8869 with the service center where the subsidiary filed its most recent return; if the parent forms a subsidiary and makes an election upon formation, submit it to the service center where the parent filed its most recent return.
- SRCInstructions p.2 — Form 8869 must be signed and dated by the president, vice president, treasurer, assistant treasurer, chief accounting officer, or another authorized corporate officer of the parent S corporation.
- SRCInstructions p.2 — Form 8869 must generally be filed no earlier than 12 months before or no later than 2 months and 15 days after the requested effective date (on line 11).
- SRCForm p.1 — The form is governed by section 1361(b)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code.
- SRCInstructions p.2 — If a QSub wants its own EIN but does not have one, it can apply online via IRS.gov/EIN or by faxing/mailing Form SS-4.
Common confusion points
Where do I file this Form 8869?
File with the service center where the subsidiary filed its most recent return, unless the parent S corporation formed the subsidiary and made the election upon formation; in that case, submit it to the service center where the parent S corporation filed its most recent return.
When is the earliest or latest I can file Form 8869?
Generally, the form must be filed no earlier than 12 months before or no later than 2 months and 15 days after the effective date requested on line 11. (Check 'When To Make the Election' section for details/exceptions.)
What happens if the parent corporation forms a new subsidiary?
The parent should enter the formation date as the requested effective date on Form 8869.
What happens if I am electing this for an existing subsidiary?
The parent should enter the specific requested effective date on Form 8869.
Who needs to sign Form 8869?
It must be signed and dated by the president, vice president, treasurer, assistant treasurer, chief accounting officer, or any other corporate officer authorized to sign the parent’s S corporation return.
What if the QSub doesn't have an EIN yet?
If the QSub has not received its EIN by the time the election is made, write “Applied For” on line 8 of Form 8869.
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Related forms and next steps
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After
Often used with
⚠ If something goes wrong
- Form 966, Corporate Dissolution or Liquidation (Do not file this form because the QSub election is a *deemed* liquidation)
Questions about IRS Form 8869
What is IRS Form 8869 used for?
This form allows an S corporation to choose that one or more of its smaller companies (subsidiaries) should be treated as part of the main company for tax purposes. When this election happens, the subsidiary is deemed liquidated into the parent, meaning all its assets and income are counted directly by the parent.
Who must file IRS Form 8869?
A parent S corporation uses Form 8869 to elect to treat one or more of its eligible subsidiaries as a qualified subchapter S subsidiary (QSub).
What information does IRS Form 8869 require?
The form collects details about the election, which can be made for additional subsidiaries by attaching separate sheets. Part II of the printed form requires specific information regarding the subsidiary.
When is IRS Form 8869 due?
Form 8869 must generally be filed no earlier than 12 months before or no later than 2 months and 15 days after the effective date requested on line 11.
Where do I file IRS Form 8869?
File Form 8869 with the service center where the subsidiary filed its most recent return. If the parent S corporation forms a new subsidiary, submit it to the service center where the parent filed its most recent return.
How do I complete IRS Form 8869?
The filer must specify the requested effective date on line 11, ensuring it falls within the required window (no earlier than 12 months before or no later than 2 months and 15 days after). If multiple subsidiaries are included, a separate sheet must be attached for each one. Finally, Form 8869 must be signed and dated by an authorized corporate officer.
What happens if IRS Form 8869 is filed incorrectly?
Failure to enter the subsidiary’s EIN may result in the service center sending a notice of delinquent filing to the QSub. An election made for a formerly eligible but currently ineligible corporation will be ineffective.
Where do I file this Form 8869?
File with the service center where the subsidiary filed its most recent return, unless the parent S corporation formed the subsidiary and made the election upon formation; in that case, submit it to the service center where the parent S corporation filed its most recent return.
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